Scott Linesburgh: When did you stop living in the Lockeford area?

Frank Shamrock: Well, let me see, I lived there from about 20 till I was 24, I want to say. That was kind of my Stockton, Lodi time.

Scott Linesburgh: Did you start to fight then, or were you already fighting at that time?

Frank Shamrock: No, no. I was dropping out of college and Bob Shamrock, my adoptive father and Ken's father – I wanted to move back and he said I could if I got a job or did the wrestling thing my brother was doing. So I literally walked into the gym one day and had never done any combative sports or martial art, anything. I fought Ken for 20 minutes and learned about martial arts.

Scott Linesburgh: What years did you live around Stockton?

Frank Shamrock: I would have been there from '93 till I moved to San Jose in 1997.

Scott Linesburgh: Do you think the Stockton area is built for this sport?

Frank Shamrock: It's built for it. This sport is a community type social activity. It takes a lot of people. You need a good group, you need partners. It takes a community to do this and support one person or two people or three people. So the more rural your area or the more community-based your area the faster this catches on because it's something where my daughter's going to go do MMA. She's only three months old, but all my kids – all my friends' kids -- everybody does it because that's our lifestyle. And when you get a nice, settled rural community or a slower community that stuff multiplies quickly.

Scott Linesburgh: If you did fight Ken, would it have to be in northern California, like San Jose, Stockton? Would that be the place to do it? Or do you not have a preference?

Frank Shamrock: Well, there's certainly a preference there just for locals, but I really think this is a story that is bigger than any region, and I really think, like Doug, this is a television-based product and once you get to that level it doesn't really matter so much where you go as long as a lot people are watching it.

Scott Linesburgh: Frank, what do you think of the Diaz-Denny fight?

Frank Shamrock: It's compelling. I know Diaz . Denny’s a kind of wild card – he's a wild man. I definitely think Nick's probably picked to come through that fight. But Denny he could change a fight in two seconds and he's got a lot of experience.