Frank Shamrock:For me is was accidental, Ken's always been a fighter. He's always been a wrestler, he grew up wrestling; but for me I was 22 years old when I started fighting. I was just kinda bouncing around, in and out of jails and wasn't doing a whole lot. I was in community college and I wanted to drop out and hang out and I was living with my Dad at the time and he told me I had to wrestle. He saw that I was just hanging out and up to no good so he told me to go down to the gym and try that wrestling thing out that my brother was doing and I never left.

Fightline.com: Up to no good? Can you elaborate?

Frank Shamrock:I was in trouble since I was eleven. When I was eleven I threw rocks at a train and I had shoplifting charges and other things that kids get into but the big one was that I threw rocks at a train which is a felony. I got busted for it and they sent me to juvinile hall. And that was the beginning of my life as far as being a ward of the state...group homes, foster homes, that kind of stuff. When I was eleven I was living with my Mom and my step Dad and my original family, but by the time I was twelve I was a ward of the state. The state was my Mommy. And Ken was the same. Ken was a ward of the state. We both grew up on the wrong side of the law. But that group home experience and meeting Bob Shamrock was a turning point for both of us because he made us both get into sports and he didn't take no crap from us.

Fightline.com: Do you still stay in contact with your biological family?

Frank Shamrock: Oh yeah, they come to all my fights. I have an older brother besides Ken and older half brother and an older sister and a younger sister. There all married and having kids so we've got a pretty good sized family...my original family. And I have the Shamrock family as well.

Fightline.com: What a story. It's amazing how well you've done considering all that you've been through.

Frank Shamrock: That's what's so unique about Ken and I, what most people see are these fighters and we've been able to be successful with that but where we came from and what we did...the whole story behind us getting there adds just a whole other level. And most people don't know the story.

Fightline.com: Tell us a little more about the early days at the Shamrock household.

Frank Shamrock: Well, I'd been to three homes by the time I meet Bob at the Shamrock Boys Ranch. They had a twenty-kid home and it was up in the country...it was like a medium security home. Each one has levels and every time you screwed up you sort of worked your way up to another level. This place was for rougher boys and rougher kids so we both lived there, but Ken was always fighting I was just a little kid. He was always getting into fights. He's just more of a fighter kind of guy.